What's your take on AI generated content?

Boy said:
Hoes aren't safe, either:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1639397735362179073

Makes sense. Generate chat, images, and 10-second videos = AI relationship on autopilot with the person of your dreams.
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Y'know, I've been staying out of the whole "collapse of society" mindset for the most part, but THIS got me to say, "This is beyond sad" out loud. I don't want to breathe the same air as people who are this pathetic.
 
CCarter said:
Here we go... Now A.I. are able to figure out the "next set of tasks" they need to perform for your initial requests. Introducing BabyAGI:


Forget taking your jobs, now they are going to be taking your managers' jobs by thinking ahead on what YOU need to be up to.

At least with ChatGPT you still had to think ahead. This may require no thinking...

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Where's the cap on that then? Skynet?

DanielS said:
Y'know, I've been staying out of the whole "collapse of society" mindset for the most part, but THIS got me to say, "This is beyond sad" out loud. I don't want to breathe the same air as people who are this pathetic.
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Agreed, I suppose the 'real lifers' and non porn addicts will have to repopulate the earth...and I didn't/don't want kids...
 
Hey,

I’ve been away from the blogging world for a bit and now see that chatgpt has exploded in popularity. I have a couple of initial questions regarding it and blogging:

1. Is using Chatgpt and other AI to write articles a grey area? Discouraged? Acceptable?

2. Are there ways to use Chatgpt and other websites/services so the content doesn’t look like it’s written by AI?

I’m enamored with the idea of producing hundreds of articles in a month or two, when it took me 2-3 years to produce ~300 articles doing it the old-fashioned way previously. Anyways, thanks for reading and appreciate any feedback!
 
I think it's also destroying the 'give me a link and you can publish this listicle guest post' model beloved of so many niche marketing experts and forums.
 
Titan243 said:
Hey,

I’ve been away from the blogging world for a bit and now see that chatgpt has exploded in popularity. I have a couple of initial questions regarding it and blogging:

1. Is using Chatgpt and other AI to write articles a grey area? Discouraged? Acceptable?

2. Are there ways to use Chatgpt and other websites/services so the content doesn’t look like it’s written by AI?

I’m enamored with the idea of producing hundreds of articles in a month or two, when it took me 2-3 years to produce ~300 articles doing it the old-fashioned way previously. Anyways, thanks for reading and appreciate any feedback!
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There might be a risk for a panda-esque update, a site-wide penalty for regularly posting low-substance articles, or a google ad account ban. But people have found at least temporary success with it. Traditional white hat is generally safer for the long-term though.

You might wanna check out:
Buzzfeed and Cnet have been posting tons of AI content. Buzzfeed called theirs "Buzzy" and gave it a separate author page. I wonder if Buzzy will have its own social pages linking out from its author page in the future. I'd watch for that. Buzzy's articles are reviews but no one first hand reviewing them. Cnet has AI articles, but they eventually ran into some plagiarism controversies despite the human editors. Then they blamed it on the human editors too.

I'm still new, but that's some info I've gathered.
 
Having played around more with, prompts etc, I think AI content could even become the norm for a base for any article. Of course it will always need human editing, but TBH I can see a lot of writers (NOT editors) being made redundant.
 
Yeah, Authority Hackers used as an example, that AI makes you a movie director. You have all these talented actors, but they need to be told what to do and if the script isn't good, even the best actors can't stop it from bombing.

I slightly disagree with that assessment. I'd rather compare AI to being an editor of a major newspaper. You have journalists, fact checkers and interns at your disposals, now what do you publish and how?

We're all going to become editors. We'll need to find our angles, our audiences, our data and then we're going to need to add our stylistic spin on it.
 
Darth said:
Having played around more with, prompts etc, I think AI content could even become the norm for a base for any article. Of course it will always need human editing, but TBH I can see a lot of writers (NOT editors) being made redundant.
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Interesting. A friend has 5 editors on their team, each managing 4-6 writers. They're retaining the writers but have just let 4 editors go, replaced by chatgpt.
 
This has been my AI content website experience. The site is 2 months old, was gaining steady momentum, and BAM, Google removes all the articles from the SERPs and the site is dead. Back to human-written content for me:

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DanielS said:
This has been my AI content website experience. The site is 2 months old, was gaining steady momentum, and BAM, Google removes all the articles from the SERPs and the site is dead. Back to human-written content for me:

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What DR was this site? How many actual high quality backlinks did you build to it?
 
illmasterj said:
Interesting. A friend has 5 editors on their team, each managing 4-6 writers. They're retaining the writers but have just let 4 editors go, replaced by chatgpt.
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I would probably leave 1 writer. They would come up with the meat of the post, add in personal opinion, nuance, insights. Run it through AI, then an editor edits that. Publish. I would never blindly publish AI content.
DanielS said:
This has been my AI content website experience. The site is 2 months old, was gaining steady momentum, and BAM, Google removes all the articles from the SERPs and the site is dead. Back to human-written content for me:

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What was your AI process? What were your prompts? Did you edit the AI output?
 
illmasterj said:
What DR was this site? How many actual high quality backlinks did you build to it?
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The site was brand new. Yes, the way to go is with an expired domain with existing authority. BUT, I still don't know if the 6 months of success is worth the crash when you could just go legit and safeguard yourself (potentially).
Darth said:
What was your AI process? What were your prompts? Did you edit the AI output?
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I tried various processes and prompts. I did edit the AI output - not full rewrites or anything like that, but Grammarly Premium and some of my own human edits. It's easier just to write an article than to perform a full rewrite.
 
DanielS said:
The site was brand new. Yes, the way to go is with an expired domain with existing authority. BUT, I still don't know if the 6 months of success is worth the crash when you could just go legit and safeguard yourself (potentially).
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The issue here is that you could show the exact same chart with a site built on English as second language content, highly technical university certified/peer reviewed content, etc.

I don't wholly believe AI is the future of content, but what you're posting is noise. Show me a site built on AI content with years of history with we well established link profile, traffic from other sources, etc.

Then we may be able to make some inferences as to if the AI content was the true cause of getting smashed like this.
 
I have AI content that is ranking 1st and some that is ranking worse than it should, so I'm still trying to figure out exactly what the pittfalls are with AI content.
 
DanielS said:
This has been my AI content website experience. The site is 2 months old, was gaining steady momentum, and BAM, Google removes all the articles from the SERPs and the site is dead. Back to human-written content for me:

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It may be due to AI content, but it may also not be.
In the past 1 year, sites and some pages have been dropping in and out of Google's SERPs almost randomly.
So it's difficult to say categorically if it's due to AI content or not.
Though I agree it's a significant pointer to what could happen with AI content, and I'll be careful with posting AI content.

illmasterj said:
I don't wholly believe AI is the future of content, but what you're posting is noise.
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I don't think you can call what he posted noise. It's a significant case study.
There's a very good possibility that it was slapped off the SERPs due to AI content, as it's relatively unusual for Google to kick sites off the SERPs completely at 2 months, unless it's completely crappy content. Most times google gives at least a 6 months window for new sites to establish credibility and links, as far as I know, so slapping it off at 2 months suggests something is amiss.
Though it may still not be due to AI content as I pointed out above, and could just be due to Google's random misbehaviour.
But I think it's a significant case study to note.

illmasterj said:
Show me a site built on AI content with years of history with we well established link profile, traffic from other sources, etc.

Then we may be able to make some inferences as to if the AI content was the true cause of getting smashed like this
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Even if he shows a site built on AI content with a strong profile that gets slapped off Google, it doesn't still prove that it's due to AI content.
Cos there are many cases of sites built with human content and using complete whitehat practices that get slapped off the SERPs completely, or have 80% of their articles knocked off Google for no obvious reason at all, and then sometime reappear back and then get knocked back off, completely randomly.

That's the Google conundrum that site owners have been facing since last year, having many of their pages completely knocked off the SERPs for no apparent reason at all.
You can see Ryu's thread on Google updates for many examples.
 
bernard said:
I have AI content that is ranking 1st and some that is ranking worse than it should, so I'm still trying to figure out exactly what the pittfalls are with AI content.
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Have you tried to use quail to rephrase your content? It still flags on originality.ai but could be worth exploring for those pages not ranking.

I also wonder if feeding chatgpt your own writing samples and tell it to write with a similar style would help it pass AI detection.
 
I'm using chatgpt to write articles for a new site. I'm actually inputting information I collect from different sources (videos, blogs) and chatgpt just turns it into words. I figure this is what even my human writers do. We're able to go at 3-4x speed and the editors are able to do it themselves without the need for writers.

Also, detecting AI content has become incredibly hard now. Originality AI used to be pretty accurate but now it gives so many false positives that it's not useful anymore.
 
MWWWconquest said:
Have you tried to use quail to rephrase your content? It still flags on originality.ai but could be worth exploring for those pages not ranking.

I also wonder if feeding chatgpt your own writing samples and tell it to write with a similar style would help it pass AI detection.
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It seems to be very dependent on competition (obviously), so I don't think it's the AI content getting flagged, but rather there's something about it that comes across as low quality.

If I had to guess, it's the lack of internal structure and internal references within the content. It might read as just a bunch of relevant, but independent paragraphs, where as a good human article would lead into and reference back, where you kind of reference other parts of your article. This shows you to understand the topic and that you thought about how structure the content.

DarkCarnage said:
'm using chatgpt to write articles for a new site. I'm actually inputting information I collect from different sources (videos, blogs)
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How do you do this? Using plugins and the API?
 
Alright so here we go from the digital mine trenches. Now there is A.I. that allows you to upload audio of individuals and then create speech that mimics their voice and emotions (https://beta.elevenlabs.io/). Example:


Well, I knew this was coming. It's the reason there isn't a video, photo, or audio recording of me anywhere on the internet since before 2007.

How did I find this, in the deep digital trenches:

Warning: If you're a snowflake generation this might trigger you.


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the way i made it was using this website https://beta.elevenlabs.io and you have to cut clips for the algorithm to train on so it's basically just re-using pieces of already spoken word and stitching them together sort of seamlessly​

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Now to really understand the implications of this, lets look at blackmail, there is the video of Obama video being used here:


Now imagine an average working class stiff gets this nonsense sent to his contact list saying crazy shit. You can destroy reputation rather quickly. The Biden and Obama one, they are famous so it's easy to explain away that it's fake. But how do you explain away a Dad stating he touched inappropriately or done worse to his daughter on audio? There will always be that doubt in people's minds and they'll distance themselves from them.

There is already A.I. revenge porn where people, sometimes Exes, are getting women's photos from their instagram and putting it over porn actresses, then uploading this porn to the internet with the girls' name. That's rarely getting mentioned because these are average people.

As with any new technology there is a lot of NEW potential dangers of its use.
 
Now when they released ChatGPT with internet access, what is everyones feelings?
 
CCarter said:
A guy put the SEO Avalanche technique together with ChatGPT and here his results (Mar 1st 2023 to May 2023):
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It's just a lead gen funnel to sell his SEO stuff, book and whatnot, consulting maybe, semrush subscriptions and whatnot. That case study is not serious. The whole AI angle is there to get attention and eyeballs on the rest of his content and products.

I even know the website that he's copying, and they got hit HARD doing that same stuff - "good enough, meh content + aged domain" with cheap writers as opposed to using AI. Mass-publishing. So I don't know, he's got the example of what happened in front of him, still proceeds to do the same thing except with even lower quality. Even copying the design 1-1.

Kind of like that owntheyard site from Spencer Hawes that got smashed. Ranked well for 2-3 years, until it didn't.

And when you inevitably get smashed doing this, guess what? You now have 600-1200 mediocre posts to re-write if you even ever want to have a chance of recovering your asset.

Maximum. Pain.

Look at the numbers. 60K traffic per month on 1200 posts published? Even if you didn't edit anything in CGPT and pushed the content as-is, that's still a terrible ROI on time. The only thing that will rank are display-ad powered queries, CGPT is not capable of review content. Those will get partially killed by Google now as well.
 
Poplanu said:
Kind of like that owntheyard site from Spencer Hawes that got smashed. Ranked well for 2-3 years, until it didn't.
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I'm sure it doesn't help either to blog about it publicly and in those journal entries talk about the links you're buying and who exactly you're buying them from. Because that's most definitely a penalty.
 
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