2024 Election

eliquid said:
^^ Knowing what I know, I'm not sure what to think.

If this is truth, or if this is master level trolling.

I'm stuck in the middle honestly.
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LOL, thats funny bro. He got me good on the rage bait earlier, haha. I didnt realize who it was until it was too late. Got a good laugh out of it.
 
I'm interested what the Gen X/Older Millenials on this board think about this Tucker intervivew:


This guy is fucking hilarious.

It's long but a lot of laughs and to be real, this fully encapsulates of my experience as a "Xentennial". I know there's bunch of you here, also the younger Gen X.
 
eliquid said:
^^ Knowing what I know, I'm not sure what to think.

If this is truth, or if this is master level trolling.

I'm stuck in the middle honestly.
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It’s true. There were jealous as fuck professors at the school I went who were communists in disguise who used their classroom as a secret way to indoctrinate people into communism. Duck them.

They also cancel you too and reject you. Seems like the common route out of wokeism is to get cancelled by then and join the right. They did it to themselves.
 

"Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year"​

I don't know how off his meds Joe Biden is but - Let's hand the microphone to AOC:


Let's hear from Kamala herself:


Interesting...

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Kamala is absolutely awful, I don't think they can really run her. Even if you put some popular VP, Kamala is just so annoying it won't matter. No one likes her.
 
Watch Big Mike will somehow end up running from democrats.
 
 
As someone who is practicing digital PR campaigns to get the media's attention, I really respect Trump now. He did PR using FREE campaigns based upon him saying shit. Then they go crazy for it. and he did this so much that he became president. The balls on that mofo.

Yeah sure, they hate him; but here I am and I can't get any coverage on my top 100 cities for pet owners piece :( God damn.
 
This is who you guys will be voting for:

“Google, nobody called from Google. One of the things like doing a show like yours, your show, you know, you see it on Fox, but when you really see it is all over the place, they take clips of your show that you're doing right now with me and if I do a good job, they're gonna vote for me, they're gonna vote for me because it's not just on Fox, it's on Fox is a smaller part of it. You're on all over this, those little beautiful cell phones you're on, you're all over the place. You have a product, you have a great product. You have a great brand. So you have to get out, you have to get out, you have to do things like your show and other shows and Google has been very bad. They've been very irresponsible and I have a feeling that Google’s going to be close to shut down, because I don’t think Congress is going to take it. I really don’t think so. Google has to be careful.”

Also, a whole lot of rape apologists in this forum. I'm extremely disappointed that many of my favorite marketers support this vile human.
 
jstover77 said:
This is who you guys will be voting for:

“Google, nobody called from Google. One of the things like doing a show like yours, your show, you know, you see it on Fox, but when you really see it is all over the place, they take clips of your show that you're doing right now with me and if I do a good job, they're gonna vote for me, they're gonna vote for me because it's not just on Fox, it's on Fox is a smaller part of it. You're on all over this, those little beautiful cell phones you're on, you're all over the place. You have a product, you have a great product. You have a great brand. So you have to get out, you have to get out, you have to do things like your show and other shows and Google has been very bad. They've been very irresponsible and I have a feeling that Google’s going to be close to shut down, because I don’t think Congress is going to take it. I really don’t think so. Google has to be careful.”

Also, a whole lot of rape apologists in this forum. I'm extremely disappointed that many of my favorite marketers support this vile human.
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Do you think any other choice is not vile?

Meaning, show me a person running that is not vile.

Side note, just because someone hasn't been tried, convicted, or brought to justice on charges yet.. doesn't mean they are not vile.

Many people out there, have not had charges pressed on them yet for X reasons. And then some people that did get charges pressed on them, got overturned.

Bill Cosby is the perfect example... took decades to get convicted.

Lesson?

1. Many people you think aren't vile, are just basically Bill Cosby before the conviction. If you think Trump is vile, I ask you to show me someone that is not who is a better choice.

Jesse said:
Feel free to elaborate. Perhaps you could start with who raped who, when she said it happened and what evidence there is for the claim?
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More than likely, reference to E. Jean Carroll
 
eliquid said:
More than likely, reference to E. Jean Carroll
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If that's the case, then the answer to the two following questions are:
  1. When did she say it happened? She couldn't remember which year.
  2. What evidence is there for the claim? She said it happened.
I was personally hoping for the Katie Johnson one, which was fabricated by a Jerry Springer producer.
 
… I’m guessing no one here wants to being this up but trump got humiliated by Kamala and now doesn’t want to have another debate. Lol. The guy really tried to wing a presidential debate and his opponent doesn’t have Alzheimer’s this time and defeated him. Kamala had a plan and speaking points and shit.

I was talking to someone else about this and he put it a good way. Kamala is the diversity hire and trump is the guy who lied to get the job but now has 4 years of experience. Kamala is doing pretty good for a nobody.

I just want to vote for trump to see the world go to shit. That plus a few democrat voters hurt me the other year with their racism so I’m gonna get revenge and vote for trump. Fuck them. I’m glad he’s the terrible choice.
 
BakerStreet said:
I was talking to someone else about this and he put it a good way. Kamala is the diversity hire and trump is the guy who lied to get the job but now has 4 years of experience.
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That's funny and Kamala is definitely the diversity hire, she was literally chosen by Biden because she was a black woman.

Trump doesn't strike me as the guy who lied to get the job, more like that old-school CEO guy you bring in to fix some tanking company and he comes in and shouts at people and get people riled up, but doesn't actually do a lot of strategy.
 
BakerStreet said:
… I’m guessing no one here wants to being this up but trump got humiliated by Kamala and now doesn’t want to have another debate. Lol. The guy really tried to wing a presidential debate and his opponent doesn’t have Alzheimer’s this time and defeated him. Kamala had a plan and speaking points and shit.

I was talking to someone else about this and he put it a good way. Kamala is the diversity hire and trump is the guy who lied to get the job but now has 4 years of experience. Kamala is doing pretty good for a nobody.

I just want to vote for trump to see the world go to shit. That plus a few democrat voters hurt me the other year with their racism so I’m gonna get revenge and vote for trump. Fuck them. I’m glad he’s the terrible choice.
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bernard said:
That's funny and Kamala is definitely the diversity hire, she was literally chosen by Biden because she was a black woman.

Trump doesn't strike me as the guy who lied to get the job, more like that old-school CEO guy you bring in to fix some tanking company and he comes in and shouts at people and get people riled up, but doesn't actually do a lot of strategy.
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Eh, I'm not so sure.

As you get older, and watch and see more things ( like these elections ) and just life in general... you realize some people play a game you can't see.

Can I say Kamala whoop'd Trumps ass in the debate?

Yes and no.

If you look at the 1 debate, that night, the immediate knee jerk... I could see how you would say yes. Kamala won the battle that night. Meaning, I don't actually agree with you, but front facing and immediate I could see HOW YOU see that.

We don't know the long play here. We don't know the war.

I'm always surprised when the long play shows itself weeks or months down the road.

One thing I do know, if you think Trump came unprepared and floobed this up, you don't know Trump. You don't know his caliber of people.

You don't win a war, winning 100% of the battles either.

So when I look at this, I look at what he did and didn't do, knowing there is a long play possible.

Kamala gave up her whole stance and running agenda that night on TV in the 1st debate. We know her potential moves, thoughts, ideas, plans, and strategy ( somewhat ). We know what to hit and knock down and what to angle against now.

What did Trump give up? Pretty much nothing. Kamala and the dems think they know his agenda and plans and strategy based on his 1st election as President. But they don't actually have anything from this debate to use against him later.

Kamala though, we all watched and know her moves.

In a game of chess, she gave up alot out of the gate. And where I am from, the sprinter out of the gate is not the winner at the end of the race ( talking about the Kentucky Derby here ). Lets see if she can keep this up.

In a game of war, you don't let your opps know your moves or thoughts, unless of course you are giving them false ones.

Of course, Im only right if Trump comes out next using this info and using it against her.

Just a little while ago, we all thought it was going to be Big Mike running. We were all fooled by that, right?

Time will tell if he was stupid, or a genius for this.
 
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Trump didn't win, because Kamala didn't lose.

I do agree that Trump seem to be hitting his stride more with his controversial old self, the cats and dogs comment and then the "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT" tweet.

Trump has exceptional instincts. That's why imo it's been a mistake every time his advisors try to get him to be boring and normal. That's taking away his greatest strengths which is to vibe and use his instincts. He has that ability to very quickly understand what people want and are about.

People have been melting down over his Taylor Swift comment, but I bet that time was just right for a backlash against her, as people in general are tired of her overexposure.
 
eliquid said:
Eh, I'm not so sure.

As you get older, and watch and see more things ( like these elections ) and just life in general... you realize some people play a game you can't see.

Can I say Kamala whoop'd Trumps ass in the debate?

Yes and no.

If you look at the 1 debate, that night, the immediate knee jerk... I could see how you would say yes. Kamala won the battle that night. Meaning, I don't actually agree with you, but front facing and immediate I could see HOW YOU see that.

We don't know the long play here. We don't know the war.

I'm always surprised when the long play shows itself weeks or months down the road.

One thing I do know, if you think Trump came unprepared and floobed this up, you don't know Trump. You don't know his caliber of people.

You don't win a war, winning 100% of the battles either.

So when I look at this, I look at what he did and didn't do, knowing there is a long play possible.

Kamala gave up her whole stance and running agenda that night on TV in the 1st debate. We know her potential moves, thoughts, ideas, plans, and strategy ( somewhat ). We know what to hit and knock down and what to angle against now.

What did Trump give up? Pretty much nothing. Kamala and the dems think they know his agenda and plans and strategy based on his 1st election as President. But they don't actually have anything from this debate to use against him later.

Kamala though, we all watched and know her moves.

In a game of chess, she gave up alot out of the gate. And where I am from, the sprinter out of the gate is not the winner at the end of the race ( talking about the Kentucky Derby here ). Lets see if she can keep this up.

In a game of war, you don't let your opps know your moves or thoughts, unless of course you are giving them false ones.

Of course, Im only right if Trump comes out next using this info and using it against her.

Just a little while ago, we all thought it was going to be Big Mike running. We were all fooled by that, right?

Time will tell if he was stupid, or a genius for this.
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I hope you're right my friend. Harris was saying bullshit like giving people $25,000 to help with a downpayment on a first house. As someone who expatriated outside of the US and owns rentals in the US, I know none of these measures would affect my balance sheet positively, and I will never help the losers of America achieve the American dream.

I want renters to stay renters and I definitely don't want them to buy a house. That'll lower the demand for rentals, which will lower rents. And that's never going to happen.

America just needs to have a class of people who pays rents all their life. You either figured out how to save money for a down payment or you don't. That's it.
 
As I'm sure most here realize at this point, a lack of supply is the main issue for the high housing costs in the United States. This was primarily driven by a lack of building during peak covid, but with that said, a fair amount of that is made worse by zoning issues.

One part of the supposed approach from Harris is to provide towns, counties, etc. with federal incentives for rezoning efforts to allow denser housing to be built in places where it currently isn't an option to build. I'm glad to see someone at least pretending to want to tackle that aspect of the issue.

Of course, the labor shortage in the trades is another problem. About 20-25 years ago when I was in high school, they were cutting out trade programs while pushing everyone to go into a four-year college path. That approach has come back to bite us; it's my understanding that we're only gaining one new tradesman for every four who are retiring right now.

I haven't seen much from either candidate about solving this element of the situation, which could dovetail nicely with the record percentage of men who are not a part of the workforce for various reasons.
 
Jesse said:
I'm glad to see someone at least pretending to want to tackle that aspect of the issue.

Of course, the labor shortage in the trades is another problem.
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Unfortunately, politics isn't there to solve society's problems. Engineers solve problems. Politics does not. If someone told you that politics solves problems, they're probably a democrat who believes in big government, and that government can solve society's problems. That's not true. Sometimes, government can just make problems more expensive and that's all.

The question of politics is "Who should get society's resources and power?" Republicans want it to go to men, rich people, white people, the market, the military and Christians. Democrats want it to go to unions, women, gays, the government, the Department of Education, and blacks.

If they even pretend to be interested in a problem that you're interested in, it's not because they want to solve the problem. Its because they wanted your vote and power.

Also, a lack of housing is only a problem for non-home owners. If you already own a home, it is an opportunity for you, since your house's value will be higher due to lack of housing supply.

Also, now that we're here, I have to say that, as a rich Asian-American, the most racist people aren't republicans. They're democrats. Republicans are racist with Trump's anti-immigration rules and such, but that's racism against poor people. They don't want resources to go to non-white Christians who are not Americans. Democrats are racist if you're successful and a minority because that goes against their belief that government can solve society's problems. They get so jealous when they find out that you got rich from the market. They'd rather see you suffer and asking for help, then see you doing well. Every time I've experienced this type of racism, its because the person who was hating on me was struggling. Sucks for them but they made their decisions and I was not involved in it! It is also not going to make me vote for their welfare policies either!
 
BakerStreet said:
Also, a lack of housing is only a problem for non-home owners. If you already own a home, it is an opportunity for you, since your house's value will be higher due to lack of housing supply.
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For home owners who do not plan to sell, the increased taxes and insurance premiums are certainly a problem.
 
BakerStreet said:
Republicans are racist with Trump's anti-immigration rules and such, but that's racism against poor people. They don't want resources to go to non-white Christians who are not Americans.
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